[Moon] Fw: [Moon-Net] Z21EME on 2m and 70cm with 1Y

Wed Nov 5 10:26:17 CET 2014

Martin, problem is that your setup is not too small, but activity is to low.
I agree with Lars. I stop to work on 432 MHz CW activity weekends year ago, 
because CQing 4 hours with my QRO and worked 9 stations! It is not that I do
not hear them, they are not on the band. This weekend I will try to work on 
1296 MHz to compare activity with previous years. This year MW ARRL was very
sad! Sample is 13cm band, easy to reach to be there with small setup. During
13 cm weekend  Franta OK1CA with 10m dish worked 23 stations, OK1KKD with 
really nice setup worked 23 stations. Do you know why? No activity. OK1KKD 
was full time on and did not miss any station, so 23 was maximum to do. Two 
years ago I have in log 89 stations on 13cm. So this is reason.

-- 
Zdenek - OK1DFC
www.ok1dfc.com
QRV 144 - 3400 MHz EME - QRO and 10m DISH
WAC 432 - 1296 - 2320 MHz
DXCC 432 MHz

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Od: Martin Andrew <martin.andrew at btinternet.com>
Komu: moon at moonbounce.info
Datum: 5. 11. 2014 10:02:03
Předmět: Re: [Moon] Fw: [Moon-Net] Z21EME on 2m and 70cm with 1Y

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Matej,

I have to agree. Tried 432MHz EME, 400 Watt and 4X19 earlier in the year. 

23 initials was all I could work. Maybe the wrong time of year, maybe my 
setup was too

small.

I just put it down to low activity during winter months.

Meantime I am wondering who has worked 'GM' in the last few months on 432
MHz.

Martin, GM6VXB
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From: ok1teh Petrzilka(mailto:ok1teh at seznam.cz) 

To: moon at moonbounce.info(mailto:moon at moonbounce.info) 

Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 8:27 AM

Subject: Re: [Moon] Fw: [Moon-Net] Z21EME on 2m and 70cm with 1Y

With such an attitude of big guns on 70cm
it's no surprise that newcomers with small
stations will lose their interest and move on
another band..

Matej, OK1TEH

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Od: sm4ive <sm4ive at telia.com(mailto:sm4ive at telia.com)>
Komu: ok1teh Petrzilka <ok1teh at seznam.cz(mailto:ok1teh at seznam.cz)>, moon@
moonbounce.info(mailto:moon at moonbounce.info)
Datum: 5. 11. 2014 8:19:29
Předmět: SV: Re: [Moon] Fw: [Moon-Net] Z21EME on 2m and 70cm with 1Y

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Hi i will probably not be QRV i have lost intrest

And since most stations are in dodlemode its just waist of time

Gl

Lars Sm4ive

Skickat från min Samsung Mobil

-------- Originalmeddelande --------
Från: ok1teh Petrzilka 
Datum:2014-11-05 08:50 (GMT+01:00) 
Till: moon at moonbounce.info 
Rubrik: Re: [Moon] Fw: [Moon-Net] Z21EME on 2m and 70cm with 1Y 

tnx Lars, you know I haven't posted that spot about Z21
at moon at moonbounce.info myself..

73 & hope to work you during ARRL EME Contest on 70cm as usual
Matej, OK1TEH

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Od: Lars Pettersson <sm4ive at telia.com>
Komu: moon at moonbounce.info
Datum: 5. 11. 2014 6:28:39
Předmět: Re: [Moon] Fw: [Moon-Net] Z21EME on 2m and 70cm with 1Y

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congratulations. Matej!

Now im convinced  !!!!

I will take down my big Dish  its just no need for BIG antennas anymore, !!
Advantage!! 1 Yagi less wind damage and you can sleep well during storms.
So now we got the proff Size dosent matter :-)

Congrats again

73 Lars SM4IVE

serge skrev 2014-11-04 23:27:

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: serge(mailto:ve1kg at eastlink.ca) 

To: ok1teh Petrzilka(mailto:ok1teh at seznam.cz) ; moon-net at mailman.pe1itr.com
(mailto:moon-net at mailman.pe1itr.com) ; moon-net at googlegroups.com
(mailto:moon-net at googlegroups.com) 

Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 10:18 PM

Subject: Re: [Moon-Net] Z21EME on 2m and 70cm with 1Y

I was a witness to this unbelievable event Matej for president!!!! 
congratulations. I am proud to know you

Serge VE1KG
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----- Original Message ----- 

From: ok1teh Petrzilka(mailto:ok1teh at seznam.cz) 

To: moon-net at mailman.pe1itr.com(mailto:moon-net at mailman.pe1itr.com) ; moon-
net at googlegroups.com(mailto:moon-net at googlegroups.com) 

Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 11:21 AM

Subject: [Moon-Net] Z21EME on 2m and 70cm with 1Y

Hello all,
just for an info, yesterday I worked Z21EME on 2m
with unexpectedly booming signals -24dB in peek,
QSO was done in less than 10 minutes after my first
call. It was nice surprise for me because during
PE1L's expeditions we usual made it after several days
of attempts. I used on 2m single 10el dk7zb with noisy
background (Prague), 16m long H1000 cable and
MGF1302 LNA in shack.

But what was absolutely incredible for me, I worked Z21EME
even on 432 MHz!! It's my first ever 1Y to 1Y EME QSO on
this band. I remember Bernd's DL7APV article in Dubus that
something like that should be possible due to VK3UM's calculations
but I've never thought that it's possible for me because of big noise.

First when I logged at HB9Q chat, I saw that Z21EME was
spotted by OK1DFC -12dB and better than -22dB by PA2V
with his 4x23el LFA yagi. As far I knew that Peter PA2V
had the same RX capabilities with his single 23el LFA yagi
like me I realized that it could be possible to see Z21EME
some 5dB worse, so around -27dB. Later Z21EME was decoded
by NC1I -12dB and I saw Frank NC1I during his QSO -15dB.
After that I decoded OH6UW -27dB and later even G4EZP -29dB.
What a condx! While I was watching in both periods I realized
that there is one weak trace only i Z21EME period. During QSO
with another station I saw ST messages. Yes it's Z21EME, WOW.
And after that - pop up, I decoded -29dB msg! After that I started calling
and nothing was decoded so I wrote Z21EME sri missed you in noise,
tnx for test. They wrote sri we saw you -27dB! Since then I was
watching their frequency and started calling when they got stronger
again. Then 2 periods of break for PA cooling and suddenly I
decoded both callsign with OOO ;-) Signal felt down in noise again
but after 12min I finally decoded final RRR. ST can be seen on
my printscreen of SpecJT. After QSO Chris from Z21EME wrote
me that they saw me -25dB in peek, truly amazing! I know that
guys like SM4IVE, etc would say hey that's cheating with such a
weak signal, but I don't care ;)

Pictures from QSOs at:
http://ok1teh.nagano.cz/eme/z21eme_70cm041114.png
(http://ok1teh.nagano.cz/eme/z21eme_70cm041114.png)
http://ok1teh.nagano.cz/eme/z21eme_2m0301114.png
(http://ok1teh.nagano.cz/eme/z21eme_2m0301114.png)

I still can't believe that Z21EME used on 70cm only 38el M2 and 400W
(directly next to antenna), but it seems be true. Before this 1Y - 1Y QSO
the smallest stations in my 70cm log were UA4AQL 2x26el 700W (-27dB)
and EA3XU 2x21elY 500W (-27dB).

My equipment at: http://ok1teh.nagano.cz/equip.htm
(http://ok1teh.nagano.cz/equip.htm)

Conclusion: don't be shy to try work Z21EME with Single Yagi
on 2m and 70cm, it's possible!

73 & big tnx to Z21EME team
Matej, OK1TEH
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