[Moon] Future of EME

[Jan Vadilijev]

Not only JT QSO you can found many countries first "QSO's" in CW also. Hams
counting first QSO in CW with sked when saw the
trace of signal on SDR but never heard/ decode at least callsign. The same
stations  never make QSO with each other in Dubus contest where the spoting
on HB9Q is not allowed...



BR Jan

On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 11:25 AM, Peter Blair <g3ltf at btinternet.com> wrote:

> Hi Leif,  Yes, for me the really satisfying QSO is one that does not
> require the "side channel" that you describe in your penultimate paragraph.
> This is ( one of) the reason(s) why I stick to CW. The advent of SDR and
> similar technology should  by now have eliminated the need for a "side
> channel" anywhere. Unfortunately the latest change in the ARRL rules
> allowing "assistance"  is a dis-incentive to incorporating an SDR in your
> eme system, why not just look on the logger?  I suspect now that the ARRL
> contest will eventually become a JTxx only event.
> I made an interesting QSO on 70cm this morning, I read NC1I's CW sign off
> at the end of his JT transmission from my SDR waterfall and knowing him to
> be an excellent CW op called him a kc or so LF and we had a quick 569/559
> exchange.
> 73 Peter G3LTF
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Leif Asbrink
> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 2:19 AM
> To: moon at moonbounce.info
> Subject: Re: [Moon] Future of EME
>
>
> Hi Lars,
>
> Maybe it is too late now. Too few CW operators left, but
> as you well know from postings in the past I think the only
> way for CW to survive is to encourage mixed mode contests and
> cross mode QSOs.
>
> A fairly large number of JT65 operators know CW well enough
> to hear who is calling - and they often listen to the tones
> if wsjt is used. If big CW stations would answer a CQ in JT65
> on CW, the chance for an answer should be at least 25 % provided
> the signal level is adequate (which it would be in many if not
> most cases for a big station like you.)
>
> If cross mode became used to some extent - and encouraged in
> contest rules - CW would much easier survive.
>
> The CW operators need not participate on Internet loggers. I think
> CW operators should compete between themselves on who worked the
> largest number of JT65 stations on true random. (No Internet,
> no scheds, no side channel at all.)
>
> "If you can not beat them, join them."
>
> 73
>
> Leif
>
>
> I just tooked a look at HB9 logger briefly and I can state that CW dont
>> existe anymore :-( every one just works JT
>> Witch makes my feel vey SAD.
>>   Its You are -20 you are -18 and so on and so on. Ohh i see your trace!
>> Oh your trace are goone, did you stop?
>> One thing is certain that this so called entry level that was supposed
>> to encourage cw did kill it.
>> So when you guys got borred of playing video games there will be no CW
>> stations left.
>> Gl for the future of EME
>> Lars SM4IVE
>> Still playing Tennis with net and Ball.
>>
>> --
>> I only work real EME no Bagpipes
>> CW is King!!!!
>>
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