[Moon] Future of EME

Lars Pettersson sm4ive at telia.com
Sun Nov 29 18:46:35 CET 2015


Jan
First of all it would be polite if you typed your callsign if any?
And i really dont understand  your text, could you specify a bit more 
exactly what you mean?

Lars SM4IVE

Den 2015-11-29 kl. 18:31, skrev Jan Vadilijev:
> Not only JT QSO you can found many countries first "QSO's" in CW also. Hams
> counting first QSO in CW with sked when saw the
> trace of signal on SDR but never heard/ decode at least callsign. The same
> stations  never make QSO with each other in Dubus contest where the spoting
> on HB9Q is not allowed...
>
>
>
> BR Jan
>
> On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 11:25 AM, Peter Blair <g3ltf at btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Leif,  Yes, for me the really satisfying QSO is one that does not
>> require the "side channel" that you describe in your penultimate paragraph.
>> This is ( one of) the reason(s) why I stick to CW. The advent of SDR and
>> similar technology should  by now have eliminated the need for a "side
>> channel" anywhere. Unfortunately the latest change in the ARRL rules
>> allowing "assistance"  is a dis-incentive to incorporating an SDR in your
>> eme system, why not just look on the logger?  I suspect now that the ARRL
>> contest will eventually become a JTxx only event.
>> I made an interesting QSO on 70cm this morning, I read NC1I's CW sign off
>> at the end of his JT transmission from my SDR waterfall and knowing him to
>> be an excellent CW op called him a kc or so LF and we had a quick 569/559
>> exchange.
>> 73 Peter G3LTF
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Leif Asbrink
>> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 2:19 AM
>> To: moon at moonbounce.info
>> Subject: Re: [Moon] Future of EME
>>
>>
>> Hi Lars,
>>
>> Maybe it is too late now. Too few CW operators left, but
>> as you well know from postings in the past I think the only
>> way for CW to survive is to encourage mixed mode contests and
>> cross mode QSOs.
>>
>> A fairly large number of JT65 operators know CW well enough
>> to hear who is calling - and they often listen to the tones
>> if wsjt is used. If big CW stations would answer a CQ in JT65
>> on CW, the chance for an answer should be at least 25 % provided
>> the signal level is adequate (which it would be in many if not
>> most cases for a big station like you.)
>>
>> If cross mode became used to some extent - and encouraged in
>> contest rules - CW would much easier survive.
>>
>> The CW operators need not participate on Internet loggers. I think
>> CW operators should compete between themselves on who worked the
>> largest number of JT65 stations on true random. (No Internet,
>> no scheds, no side channel at all.)
>>
>> "If you can not beat them, join them."
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Leif
>>
>>
>> I just tooked a look at HB9 logger briefly and I can state that CW dont
>>> existe anymore :-( every one just works JT
>>> Witch makes my feel vey SAD.
>>>    Its You are -20 you are -18 and so on and so on. Ohh i see your trace!
>>> Oh your trace are goone, did you stop?
>>> One thing is certain that this so called entry level that was supposed
>>> to encourage cw did kill it.
>>> So when you guys got borred of playing video games there will be no CW
>>> stations left.
>>> Gl for the future of EME
>>> Lars SM4IVE
>>> Still playing Tennis with net and Ball.
>>>
>>> --
>>> I only work real EME no Bagpipes
>>> CW is King!!!!
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