[Moon] Joe Taylor

[Don Hawbaker]

PCs do not run themselves any more than CW keys send code all by themselves.  You can read CW or you can read a computer.  I find it easier to read a computer.

I find it more enjoyable to read the computer screen than to work so hard trying to pull a few dits out of the horrible libration fading.

Tools are tools.  You can work with a hand file or you can use an electric grinder.  Your choice.

73s

Sent from my iPad

> On Mar 12, 2018, at 3:11 PM, Zdenek SAMEK-OK1DFC <ok1dfc at seznam.cz> wrote:
> 
> Don sorry you miss!!! Automated QSO is not HAM RADIO!!! It is PC-PC QSO and if anybody as ham radio is not involved in this, it is not HAM RADIO !!!!
> 
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> ---------- Původní e-mail ----------
> Od: Don Hawbaker via Moon <moon at moonbounce.info>
> Komu: John PA5MS <john at pa5ms.nl>
> Datum: 12. 3. 2018 19:16:58
> Předmět: Re: [Moon] Joe Taylor
> 
> No, I did not miss anything. Just go knit sweaters if that is what you like. Some of us enjoy automated QSOs. It all depends on what you like. One does not disallow the other. There is room for all. If you like sweaters, that is fine, go knit, just don’t try to tell the rest of us how to do our ham radio. If you don’t like automated QSOs, then do not do them. But leave the rest of us alone and don’t accuse us of ruining ham radio. We might think the same thing about you.
> 
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> > On Mar 12, 2018, at 2:04 PM, John PA5MS <john at pa5ms.nl> wrote:
> > 
> > Don,
> > 
> > It seems you missed the clue... It was all about Automated QSO's let your computer automatically make QSO's for you even while you're away.. if that is the future of amateur radio, I'm going to knit sweaters
> > 
> > 73! John PA5MS
> > 
> > 
> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > Van: Moon [mailto:moon-bounces at moonbounce.info] Namens Don Hawbaker via Moon
> > Verzonden: maandag 12 maart 2018 18:56
> > Aan: moon-net at mailman.pe1itr.com
> > CC: Moon-Bounces
> > Onderwerp: [Moon] Joe Taylor
> > 
> > Dear Dr. Joe Taylor, K1JT. Please disregard these recent vile, rude, and irrelevant emails concerning the future of amateur radio. Such vitriol from fellow amateurs is inexcusable. Their opinions do not represent the majority of amateur radio operators. With all the spectrum and modes available, I cannot comprehend how these few people think everything must be done their old fashioned way. I assume they use the modern conveniences of electricity, automobiles, TV, central heating systems, etc. so it is not that they hate modern things, just people who do not do things their hard way.
> > 
> > I encourage you to continue to improve the techniques that you and your group have developed. I and many other amateur radio operators enjoy the benefits provided by computer processing of weak signals and other forms of advanced radio. The encoding techniques and the mathematics that support them are fascinating even if not appreciated by some people. Thank you for all your work. It is indeed admirable. Thanks again. Best 73s.
> > 
> > Respectfully yours,
> > WA3RGQ
> > 
> > Sent from my iPad
> > 
> >> On Mar 12, 2018, at 12:41 PM, Dominique Fässler via Moon <moon at moonbounce.info> wrote:
> >> 
> >> What a sick mind behind automated QSO's!
> >> As we know in many other disciplines of life, human perversion happens all over. 
> >> 
> >> My dish for 23cm will be dismantled before the mid of the year after 20 years EME in CW. It was a thrilling period of my life in CW with many stations and almost no skedding. I did not count the numbers but the fun and quality of signals was important.
> >> Now 3cm attracts me more - terrestrial and EME. It still offers many sorts of challenges, and again, it is technology in combination with relationships within the amateur community.
> >> 
> >> If someone is interested in some high-power gear or other equipmenet, please send me a note. 
> >> 
> >> I had a wonderful time on 23cm and do not regret the many hours spent. It is just the next period of my life beginning and not less thrilling. 
> >> Instead of computer gaming, the computer jobs here are more likely antenna control, SDR and rainscatter issues.
> >> 
> >> Thanks guys for all the handmade QSO's we had. I am looking back with joy!
> >> 
> >> 73 HB9BBD
> >> Dominique
> >> 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Moon [mailto:moon-bounces at moonbounce.info] On Behalf Of Lars Pettersson via Moon
> >> Sent: Samstag, 10. März 2018 10:07
> >> To: moon at moonbounce.info; Kjell Jarl
> >> Subject: [Moon] The future of Amateurradio
> >> 
> >> Thanks K1JT for totaly destroying the Hobby!!
> >> 
> >> it started on 2 m with bagpipes then it whent higher and higher in freq Now have Jesus invented a new mode called FT8
> >> 
> >> Lets see how long time it takes before this Contestmode http://www.arrl.org/news/ft8-dxpedition-mode-field-test-attracts-upward-of-500-participants
> >> 
> >> appears in The ARRL EME contest!!!! and similar.
> >> 
> >> In my point of view it looks like K1JT are destroying the hobby totaly.
> >> 
> >> So guys lets install this Idiot software and start it, then go on vacation, http://ae5x.blogspot.se/2018/01/video-fully-automated-ft8-qsos.html When you get back maybe you have 5000 Qsos in the log and QSl sent to LOTW Really a nice future,
> >> 
> >> Maybe you will se this FANTASTIC software in Holland 2018 EME and celebrate Jesus.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Lars SM4IVE
> >> 
> >> 
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