[Moon] very unfair rules from ARRL :-(

Mon Nov 30 22:14:00 CET 2020

Hi guys,

I spent a lot of my live time on moon for to make qso's via moon.

I am not looking for some diploma, but some friends told me to send my 
log to ARRL.

Unfortunately ARRL decided to count JT qso's same as SSB qso's. And even 
worse than cw qso's :-(

I have done some SSB qso's.

Maybe somebody at ARRL had made the decision, who never been qrv on 
moonbounce.

I would like to see the policymaker on moon, when executing SSB as easy 
like JT.

For me it is a complete bullshit decision.

I will NOT send any information to the ARRL anymore with that really 
unfair rules.

Yes, I have done some WSJT qso's, but this is a completely another class.

I will do that in future maybe again, we'll see.

I wonder, why ARRL is completely off reality on moon :-(

Cu on moon,

Slawek DL6SH

-------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
Betreff: 	Re: Fw: ARRL EME in 3.1 Single Mode CW no SSB NOT valid???
Datum: 	Mon, 30 Nov 2020 21:53:03 +0100
Von: 	Slawek DL6SH <dl6sh-eme at online.de>
An: 	Rick R <rick1ds at hotmail.com>
Kopie (CC): 	sm4ive >> Lars Pettersson <sm4ive at telia.com>, dg5CST, 
Sebastian <dg5cst at googlemail.com>

Hi Rick,

thank you for response. When ARRL rules are, that SSB contacts are the 
same as very easy WSJT contacts, there is something very very wrong! I 
will NOT send any logs to ARRL. They do not have acceptable  rules for 
moonbounce.

I will publish that to the moon community.

Very very SAD about non fair rules.

73, Slawek dl6sh

Am 30.11.2020 um 20:14 schrieb Rick R:
> Here is the response from ARRL. We inherited these rules from many 
> years ago, so it is not a person, but the contest committee that made 
> those rules. I would be sad and disappointed if you did not submit a 
> log as you are a great op with a great station. Rick K1DS
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *Subject:* RE: ARRL EME in 3.1 Single Mode CW no SSB NOT valid???
>
> Hi Rick,
>
> CW only is just that- only CW.  Including SSB with CW only wouldn’t 
> make it CW only anymore.  I’m not sure where the confusion is.
>
> If you want to include SSB (phone) it will be in the “Single Operator 
> All Mode” category under 3.1
>
> *3. Entry Categories:*
>
> *3.1. *Single Operator All Mode: Any combination of CW, phone, or 
> digital modes. Available for all bands.
>
> *3.2. *Single Operator CW Only: 144, 432, and 1296 MHz bands and Multi 
> band logs.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul Bourque, N1SFE
>
> Contest Program Manager
>
> *ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio®*
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> *From:* Rick R <rick1ds at hotmail.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, November 30, 2020 1:46 PM
> *To:* Horn, Bruce, WA7BNM <bhorn at hornucopia.com>; Bourque, Paul, N1SFE 
> <n1sfe at arrl.org>
> *Subject:* Fw: ARRL EME in 3.1 Single Mode CW no SSB NOT valid???
>
> Can you help with this special issue below? My sense is that CW only 
> should include the SSB to make the scoring simpler. Rick K1DS
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:*Slawek DL6SH <dl6sh-eme at online.de <mailto:dl6sh-eme at online.de>>
> *Sent:* Monday, November 30, 2020 10:33 AM
> *To:* Rick R <rick1ds at hotmail.com <mailto:rick1ds at hotmail.com>>
> *Subject:* ARRL EME in 3.1 Single Mode CW no SSB NOT valid???
>
> Hi Rick,
>
> is that true that for "3.2. Single Operator CW Only: 144, 432, and 
> 1296 MHz bands and Multi band logs" does not count SSB?
>
> I have seen now that SSB has been placed to "3.1. Single Operator All 
> Mode: Any combination of CW, phone, or digital modes"
>
> SSB is much more difficult to do like CW and can not be compared with 
> digital modes. Why 3.1 ????
>
> I have done a lot of qso's during ARRL contest on 1296 and 432MHz, 
> most in CW but some in SSB .
>
> If SSB is not valid for 3.2. Single Operator, I will NOT send my to 
> ARRL anymore.
>
> In that case I do not understand the rules. Who has defined that???
>
> Can you give me a feedback?
>
> 73, Slawek DL6SH
>
> Am 16.10.2020 um 19:52 schrieb Rick R via Moon-net:
>
>     I have checked with ARRL staff and they responded:
>
>     "The log uploader for EME accepts a wide variety of signal
>     reports. Entrants should log what they sent/copied."
>
>     "Paper logs are accepted, but must include a completed summary
>     sheet and a complete log."
>
>     See the ARRL website to download the paper log forms. If anyone
>     needs assistance to convert an electronic log to Cabrillo, I can
>     assist. The W3KM GenLog program can be used to produce a Cabrillo
>     log or N1MM can make a USER DEFINED LOG than can easily be
>     converted to Cabrillo. If you plan to add additional QSOs on the
>     3rd weekend of Nov 28-29, please wait until you are done to submit
>     a complete log for all the weekends you participated. 73, Rick K1DS
>
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