[Moon] Fwd: Fw: ARRL EME in 3.1 Single Mode CW no SSB NOT valid???

[Lars Pettersson]

That is as crazzy as it always has been,         ARRL are just a brown 
tongue to JT

STAY away from all of ARRL stuff.

Even the 432 &Up NL are only publishing total scores Bagpipes mixed with 
CW         this is one of the reasons I dont send any reports anymore

Lars SM4IVE


Den 2020-11-30 kl. 21:53, skrev Slawek DL6SH:
> Hi Rick,
>
> thank you for response. When ARRL rules are, that SSB contacts are the 
> same as very easy WSJT contacts, there is something very very wrong! I 
> will NOT send any logs to ARRL. They do not have acceptable  rules for 
> moonbounce.
>
> I will publish that to the moon community.
>
> Very very SAD about non fair rules.
>
> 73, Slawek dl6sh
>
>
> Am 30.11.2020 um 20:14 schrieb Rick R:
>> Here is the response from ARRL. We inherited these rules from many 
>> years ago, so it is not a person, but the contest committee that made 
>> those rules. I would be sad and disappointed if you did not submit a 
>> log as you are a great op with a great station. Rick K1DS
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> *Subject:* RE: ARRL EME in 3.1 Single Mode CW no SSB NOT valid???
>>
>> Hi Rick,
>>
>> CW only is just that- only CW.  Including SSB with CW only wouldn’t 
>> make it CW only anymore.  I’m not sure where the confusion is.
>>
>> If you want to include SSB (phone) it will be in the “Single Operator 
>> All Mode” category under 3.1
>>
>> *3. Entry Categories:*
>>
>> *3.1. *Single Operator All Mode: Any combination of CW, phone, or 
>> digital modes. Available for all bands.
>>
>> *3.2. *Single Operator CW Only: 144, 432, and 1296 MHz bands and 
>> Multi band logs.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Paul Bourque, N1SFE
>>
>> Contest Program Manager
>>
>> *ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio®*
>>
>> 225 Main Street
>>
>> Newington CT 06111-1400
>>
>> Telephone: 860-594-0232
>>
>> Fax: 860-594-0346
>>
>> n1sfe at arrl.org
>>
>> www.arrl.org
>>
>> *From:* Rick R <rick1ds at hotmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Monday, November 30, 2020 1:46 PM
>> *To:* Horn, Bruce, WA7BNM <bhorn at hornucopia.com>; Bourque, Paul, 
>> N1SFE <n1sfe at arrl.org>
>> *Subject:* Fw: ARRL EME in 3.1 Single Mode CW no SSB NOT valid???
>>
>> Can you help with this special issue below? My sense is that CW only 
>> should include the SSB to make the scoring simpler. Rick K1DS
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> *From:*Slawek DL6SH <dl6sh-eme at online.de <mailto:dl6sh-eme at online.de>>
>> *Sent:* Monday, November 30, 2020 10:33 AM
>> *To:* Rick R <rick1ds at hotmail.com <mailto:rick1ds at hotmail.com>>
>> *Subject:* ARRL EME in 3.1 Single Mode CW no SSB NOT valid???
>>
>> Hi Rick,
>>
>> is that true that for "3.2. Single Operator CW Only: 144, 432, and 
>> 1296 MHz bands and Multi band logs" does not count SSB?
>>
>> I have seen now that SSB has been placed to "3.1. Single Operator All 
>> Mode: Any combination of CW, phone, or digital modes"
>>
>> SSB is much more difficult to do like CW and can not be compared with 
>> digital modes. Why 3.1 ????
>>
>> I have done a lot of qso's during ARRL contest on 1296 and 432MHz, 
>> most in CW but some in SSB .
>>
>> If SSB is not valid for 3.2. Single Operator, I will NOT send my to 
>> ARRL anymore.
>>
>> In that case I do not understand the rules. Who has defined that???
>>
>> Can you give me a feedback?
>>
>> 73, Slawek DL6SH
>>
>> Am 16.10.2020 um 19:52 schrieb Rick R via Moon-net:
>>
>>     I have checked with ARRL staff and they responded:
>>
>>     "The log uploader for EME accepts a wide variety of signal
>>     reports. Entrants should log what they sent/copied."
>>
>>     "Paper logs are accepted, but must include a completed summary
>>     sheet and a complete log."
>>
>>     See the ARRL website to download the paper log forms. If anyone
>>     needs assistance to convert an electronic log to Cabrillo, I can
>>     assist. The W3KM GenLog program can be used to produce a Cabrillo
>>     log or N1MM can make a USER DEFINED LOG than can easily be
>>     converted to Cabrillo. If you plan to add additional QSOs on the
>>     3rd weekend of Nov 28-29, please wait until you are done to
>>     submit a complete log for all the weekends you participated. 73,
>>     Rick K1DS
>>
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